Hi Ben, your post is very interesting. Thank you for all your tips. I’m going to be a first timer. I am about to purchase a chicken house and run, but as you state, they are all 100cm high. I’m thinking of extending the run and making a higher enclosed run similar to yours. Hopefully I can do it as time for me is very tight with two boys under 3. Was your run you made easy enough, how long did it take you?
Hi Mike, it didn’t take too long. A couple of days over a weekend should be enough if you have all the materials and some decent tools. The base was probably the most complicated part.
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Nice Article! Solar is amazing. I’m looking at Wind power as well (turbines) to generate electricity. I’d add that, with having a NAS in your home, it also gives you the opportunity to connect you to your media/tv to it aswell, NAS are also often DLNA devices (digital living network alliance). So, any films you can put on your device – you can steal directly to the tv per say. The tv has to also be a DLNA certified capable (smart) TV but, once it is you can simply download the ‘Video’ app on the TV and, it’s a simple player that’ll play and display films or even photos from the device – similar to the Apple TV. 1080p and 4K will stream to it, also, skipping or scanning through to certain parts of films is so quick and efficient to do. Truly amazing technology, worth harnessing in 2018! Just to add to your article, enjoyed the read!
Thanks Royston! Wind power is the next logical step I think. Thanks for the advice on the smart TVs, I didn’t know you could connect a NAS. Will be getting one for the kids play room soon. Thanks again, Ben
I’m building a simple lean to 2.8m x 5m. 2.5m high. more or less same design with polycarbonate roof. it will be open on all sides. the structure will be anchored to the ground exactly like yours.
the house is terraced is not in a reservation area. we will use it just as a dry place in the garden to hang clothes or have a meal in the summer. 2 builders told me that I don’t need planning permission for this.
Many thanks for your reply.
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Sounds great! Send me the post when your done 🙂
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Hi, Firstly thank you for posting such an in depth instructional post. This is exactly what i want to do, i have a 5.0 width. I leveled my garden in the winter and built a deck so you step out the back of the patio doors straight onto the deck. I have a few questions.
1: I don’t think i have as much room above my door, 1 brick height before it stick out for the gutter, is this okay, can i reduce the wood size from 47×100 to 47×75? If not how would it work with it above? can i attach to the fascia, i was dubious on this?
2: Can i attach to the deck?
3: Can i get away with a post at each end with a 5m span? have to be 4.8 i think as no timber long enough.
i can post a picture of my back garden to help you see what i mean?
Hi Paddy, thanks for you’re note. I’m afraid I’m not able to advise you on your questions. You should seek professional advise if you are unsure on your project. I did my own research and spoke to professionals which were only specific to my build. All the best with you’re build. Ben
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I’ve just switched to Bulb this month. This is my third switch this year. I’m hoping they turn out to be my last one for a while. Trying to get the balance between affordable and competent when it comes to energy suppliers is a tricky balancing act.
Absolutely! They were the cheapest for us when we did a comparison, but I also like the fact they use renewable electricity. They’ve also been very responsive to messages which is always a great sign 🙂
Their app is also brilliant. They remind you it’s meter read time, you send the reading and ‘hey presto’ it’s used to calculate your bill. They are very organised. I love it because it means I can calculate how much I’m using (like a SMART metre but without the metre) and over time I can use it to calculate my yearly bill. I just hope they don’t go under like so many of the competition.
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I agree the app is great. I used it the other day to amend how much my monthly payment is as I was paying a bit too much. So handy to be able to control things like that on the app and not have to go on a desktop to login. Fingers crossed they stick around and keep bills as low as possible 🙂
I’ve managed to cut household bills in all sorts of ways. I switched energy provider 3 times last year, plus you make cashback if you use the right sites to do it. I’ve cut my water bill in half because I have a water metre and I am extra careful with water. The same with gas and electric, only use what you really need. I’ve also changed car insurance this year saving me £100 (loyalty to a company gets you nowhere) and I’ve found a new breakdown recovery company that’s half what I’m paying now. I’ve got really good with my food bills too. I’ve learned what I really need and what I don’t and this year I am going to grow lots of my own veg which will cut back on that bill for sure. I’ve also taken advantage of banks offering money to switch and opened lots of accounts with small interest rates. By my calculation I’ll have made over £3000 outside of my earnings.
As for the no spend, January was going to be mine too, but it hasn’t quite panned out that way so February will be my extra frugal month too. Not that I can get much more frugal than I already am, but my ‘extra spending’ needs to go down. Investing in my veg growing plan has been an overspend but sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate!
Wow, three energy switches, that’s great if you’ve saved money each time and got cashback! I’m looking forward to a no-spend Feb. We have been more careful than usual in January and it’s been great to top our savings up.
I’m also doing a zero spend on clothes for the entire year. I don’t usually spend much on clothing anyway and have a very minimal wardrobe, but I think it will stop me making any random purchases at all if I set myself the actual challenge. I do sometimes buy a couple of items of clothing every couple of months and I really think I don’t always need to.
I’ve not yet switched bank accounts, but I have seen some very tempting offers, some offering £100 to switch to a current account and they transfer all the direct debits, etc, so it does look quite hassle free. I should definitely look into this more.
I saw a money blogger write about something similar once. They had lots of accounts with different banks and they had it all set up very cleverly to switch money between them each month to take advantage of cashback, rewards and interest from each one. It would take some planning!
Growing your own veg is great! We grow some every year, but only a small amount. I’d love to grow more and plan to in the future. I hope your growing goes well 🙂
Natwest’s swtich is £150. I’ll be completing mine tomorrow. RBS have matched the offer so if you can find two accounts to switch, you’ve made £300 and yes they do all the move for you.
Well the 3 switches were from BG when I moved in here last April and they wanted £70 a month for a single person in a small flat, the second was from Economy Energy who went bust last month. I moved in November though. They were incredibly incomptetent. So here I am with Bulb.
I’ve opened 7 accounts since last September and I have do money switches every month to keep them earning the max. I keep everything on spreadsheets otherwise I’ll lose track but I’m probably making about £800 a year. It’s not a huge amount but I can’t afford to lock money away for a long time so I get lots of accounts with high interest on small amounts and then just keep bouncing the money back and forth. It does the job.
I’ve been doing the ‘no buy’ on clothing for about 4 years now. I’m very much make do and mend because I’m a fashion designer so it’s easy for me to repairs and alterations. I also never get rid of clothes so I rotate summer and winter wardrobes. I used to buy a lot of clothes so I have more than enough. 🙂
Great advise! I have a house currently for sale. I have used many of your thoughts and validated them against my own. It is amazing in this hotter than most market what people will put up with. My house is not perfect but.. it does not have paint pealing all over. As an example… it makes my house and the asking price stick out as more reasonable. All good advice here. Thank you.
Hi Daniele.
My maths isn’t great so I used a triangle calculator. Simply put in the lengths and the calculator will do the rest for you. This is the one I used: https://www.calculator.net/triangle-calculator.html
Hope this helps, Ben
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Hi Ben What wood material did you use for the outside of your shed? I’ve read through but, I don’t see what type of wood or brand it is and if this is tongue and groove. My husband has built our shed and we are deciding on the outside covering. We live in Ontario, Canada. Thank you, Deborah
Hi Deborah. It’s called loglap timber cladding and comes in a number of different sizes. It’s a type of tongue and groove with rounded sides. Not sure if this product is available in Canada
Hi Ben, your shed is 360 x 300cm But in the shopping list the longest wood you list is 2400mm. Did you have to join the wood for base and walls? If so, how did you do it?
Hi Allen, I’ve just updated the post so hopefully it’s a little clearer now. Basically the C16 was used for the base frame main supports and the wall frames top and bottom pieces.
Hi Ben, great write up. It’s inspired me to build my own! I have a sticking point. Where my shed will be, the back and one side will be against my red brick house walls. I don’t know whether to sit hard up against the brick or leave my stud wall away from the brick and then if so what to clad it in as it will be out of sight I don’t want to ship lap it.
Hi Dan. I guess you could join the shed to the house but you will need to research suitable flashing materials to ensure a water tight fit. The easier option is to build away from the brick walls. the cladding you then use will be dependant on what you are using the shed for. Maybe just a cheaper tongue and groove cladding. I would advise enough space to get down the sides, firstly for building access and secondly maintenance reasons.
Cheers Ben, I’m going to build away from it. Wood is bought, frame work begins tomorrow! One question, did you pre drill holes for the 5×75 screws? I’ve read conflicting opinions.
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I used a countersink bit set to about 30mm depth to drill pilot holes. 👍🏼
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I did pre drill holes on mine, but only to the depth of piece of wood.
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Hi Ben,
I’ve basically followed your instructions to the letter and I’m at the point of finishing the cladding but haven’t chosen how I’m going to paint/stain the cladding.
Could I ask what you used and what you’d recommend? I’m not looking to change the colour of the cladding much as I like the grain, maybe a few tints darker like on yours.
I’m thinking a stain but I know they can be tricky and not exactly weather proof.
Hi Issac, you could try a clear water protective treatment such as ‘Barrettine Log Cabin Treatment’. It can be expensive but it’s one of the best for clear shed protection. You could also try a decking oil, like ‘Ronseal Ultimate Protection Decking Oil’. 5L should be plenty. Regards, Ben
Hi Ben, very informative and helpful write up for building a shed. By far the easiest to follow guide I have found and the one I intend to use when (if) I get around to replacing my shed.
I’m curious about the edges of the OSB that makes the floor. Due to the 19mm inset you have between the walls and the corner posts, and therefore the flush-fit cladding, the cladding stops before covering this edge. Does this mean the edge of this OSB exposed to the elements?
Thanks,
John
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Thanks John.
I’ve laid a waterproof membrane on the floor to protect the flooring and also allowed a slight overhang for the cladding. Given the chance to do again I would probably do it slightly differently. But not exactly sure how at this point.
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Hi,
Thanks for this, really useful. Can I ask how you dealt with your home drain pipe? Did you make a hole in the veranda roof?
It just Ronseal she’d and fence paint. It’s holding up well because very little water actually gets to the cladding, because I went for a large overhanging roof.
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Ben posted: “The requirements when it comes to roofing insulation can vary quite a bit from state to state. There are a variety of reasons why this is the case: the local climate—both natural and political—and the state’s commitment to energy efficiency are key among”
I am renovating a similar set up on my dormer bungalow. Not as refined as yours but a great addition to the house. Current set up had upvc fascia board up to join the guttering. Did you join the guttering to the joists? .
Hi Ben, have you altered the materials list at all? A couple of weeks ago it contained hyperlinks to the B&Q products but now it just has a number in each apart from the cladding.
Hi Ben. This is a tremendous account of your project and exactly the type of veranda I had visualised for my back garden. I searched to get an idea of wood sizes before I start my own one and found your detailed account. Brilliant and thanks very much!
Very honest and very Informative indeed. Even mentioning the mistake of mixing up too much grout is really helpful and has probably saved a lot of people time and money as well as avoiding staining the tiles. Great job, very meticulous great photos to appreciate your hard work. Thank you have helped tremendously.. 👍
This is a really great content, I can see how detailed you have gone through and explained about how to build your own decking area. I love this article, thanks for producing such great contents. I love your posts always.
Hi Hannah. It was from a local garden centre but I would recommend getting something a bit taller. Our chickens could easily jump over this one. Needs to be about 5ft tall ideally.
Love this table. Quick question. Looking to build one similar. Would biscuits be needed or could I miss the biscuit join part and wood glue and follow other steps??? Thinking of using Scaffold boards (new) 1.8m length, 23cm wide and 3.5 cm thick. Will these boards be ok to use or could you advise any others? I know to mix the grain so they are different to stop warping. Anything else to look at without warping?
Hi Reece, scaffold boards are fine but it’s best to use biscuits which will keep the boards all in line. They can easily twist and warp indoors. Get yourself a moisture meter and make sure the wood you use is 10% or less.
Hi Ben
Great description. How did you power the light – did you run mains or is it solar/battery?
If mains – any particular advice on getting power to the shed – ducting etc?
And did you clad internally or just leave the plastic exposed?
Hi Steve. I’ve run mains to the shed. You’ll need a qualified electrician for this or to sign it off. You’ll need an armoured cable in ducting in the ground or along the fence. You’ll need to read into this yourself as it will depend on how far you are going and power requirements. Easier to get an electrician to install.
No cladding internally yet but will be insulating and plasterboard soon.
Really appreciate the time taken to create this guide. I’m just designing a smaller version of your shed and working out what materials I need, so quick question – what timber did you use to make the roof trusses? Was it the cls 63mm x 38mm? Thanks
Hey Ben
Great work! I’ve been looking at building something very similar, but I’ve always worried about the corrugated plastic roof as it would be right underneath our bedroom window. Do you find the roofing noisy when it rains? Might be a weird question, but I hope you can help 🙂
Not a weird question at all as lots of people think about this. We haven’t had any issues with it. It’s right next to our living room and our daughters bedroom and it’s never been an issue. You have to make sure you buy the thicker stuff as the thin will sound much louder. Try at least the 1.1mm thick or 1.3mm thick for better sound deadening. Don’t buy 0.9mm thickness.
Hi Ben. Great guide. Going to build my own but only 2400mm wide. I’m having trouble working the length of the rafters for my size shed. Did you use any sort of calculation when working out the length of your rafters or could you tell me how long each side of the rafter needs to be. Thanks again. Mark
Hi Mark. I just guessed the size so it’s really up to you. There is no precise science behind it but take into consideration the size of the boards for the roof which normally come in 2440x1220mm size. The less cutting the easier. 👍🏼
Hi Ben, thank you very much for the information 🙂 I am currently trying out this type of table but have a couple of questions. Do you use a thicknesses or planer to straighten out the boards? Ours are a little warped, if we use a planer I’m worried they’ll just end up looking like new boards or take too much of the character out of them? But if we don’t they end up having one edge sticking up or not sitting flash together. If you have any advice for us that would be very appreciated!
Hi Hannah. You really need to use straight boards. You might get away with slightly warped boards boards but not too much. You could try and flatten them but I don’t think this will help much and like you say it will take the patina out of them. Either try and get some different boards or ‘reset the ones you have. To do this you will need to lay them flat for a couple of months and moisten them periodically. With a bit of weight on top they should go flat again. Then you need to dry them out. I guess they were stored upright which is why they have warped? I had some boards that were stored upright and were quite warped but after leaving them flat for several months they were fine. Hope this helps. Ben
Thank you that’s a lot of help! They arrived wet so we had them stored upright! 😬
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You’re welcome. 🙂 If they arrived wet then the best thing to do is lay them flat inside, ideally next to a radiator and you should see them return to normal after a few weeks.
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Hi just after some help please. My husband has made a table using scaffolding boards and used woodfiller once it was put together. He has now used Danish oil but the wood filler is leaving white strips as its not absorbing the oil. What can we do about it?
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Hi Emma. I don’t think you will ever blend the colour perfectly. Oil won’t penetrate the wood filler so I would suggest using a stain instead. Try the Ronseal interior stain that I have used on my tables. Hope this helps. Ben
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Circular saw is most efficient and most useful tools. I have a circular saw and use frequent. Thank you for the post.
Hey Ben,
Thank you for share your helpful content with us..
I am Lover of DEwalt & ryobi power tools brand. i am collected Jigsaw of dewalt brand, it’s work very nicely.
i am happy to use this brand. What brand of Jigsaw do you recommend and why?
Hi Ben
Would you say these build materials are sufficiently robust to use the shed as a bar with a wall mounted tv. I’d intend on putting insulation inside and some interior panelling on top of therefore. Also is the wood pre treated or did you treat after – as the final shed looks painted or stained.
Thanks!
John
Hello, great post thank you! What timber did you use for the doorway frame? What timber for the door frames?Any bracing aside form the vertical loglap on the doors?
Hi, I would put a diagonal brace on the door frame and then lap on top. This will prevent and warping. The timber is the same as the walls. You might also do the same on the walls depending on whether you will be putting any weight inside.
Thank you very much for sharing these ideas. I really appreciate your efforts for creating this exceptionally well content. I was looking for such content about how to build your own decking area, you have really helped me with the same, great post!!
This is really appreciated that you have presented all data on how to build your own decking area. I love all the information shared. I like how you have researched and presented these exact points so clearly. Great article!
I find it helpful that you said I should consider the color of the bed frame to ensure it would match my bedroom’s color scheme. It’s also great that you mentioned I should consider getting something in black or white since those colors are universal. My husband and I plan to purchase a new bed frame for our bedroom soon, so thanks for this tip!
I’m thinking of doing something similar – can I ask how your shed been for condensation and damp so far?
I’m wondering about putting the polythene sheet under the base frame make a difference – it would stop damp rising up from underneath but allow ventilation. Also possible to infill gaps in the frame with insulation perhaps.
Thanks Andy. I made sure there was ample ventilation in the eaves which prevents any condensation build up. I’ve also just started building an extension and insulating so will write this up and share at some point.
Hello,
Brilliant instructions thanks.
I have made my table. 2m long.
I have used osmo amber oil tint.
We have ordered some faux leather tan counter lever chairs. However they have not arrived yet. I am ready to attach the legs to the table. I bought x cross shaped legs. I’m just wondering if there are any measurement as to where I place the legs. We will have 8 chairs. 3 either side and 1 either end. I just don’t want some chairs so they won’t go underneath. Alternatively I will wait for the chairs to arrive.
Thankyou.
Also do you have andthing with regards to making coffee tables??
Hi Wil, you will want to wait until you have the chairs ideally as this may affect where the legs are mounted. I tend to mount my legs about 30cm in from each end to allow suitable leg room. This can be reduced slightly but no more than 26cm.
Good luck finishing off your project.
Ben
Hi this is amazing and what a great find. being a novice with a modicum of DIY experience it fills me with confidence. The one thing that I’m most concerned with is getting it all level as the garden has a small degree of slope. How do you achieve that with those corner pads?
Also is it worth filling the gaps in between the floor frame with something so I don’t get vermin hiding\living underneath.
Also is the floorboard treated or weather proofed in any way.
I may be getting a bit concerned about obviously small things here.
Try levelling your garden by digging out one side and raising the other. You might want to make a raised base for this. Try my decking post to see how this is done. https://wood-create.com/2020/04/13/how-to-build-your-own-decking-area/
If you can fill the gaps then it’s probably a good idea. I however like that I have provided shelter for hedgehogs etc.
The floorboards are not treated but they are covered with a waterproof barrier which prevents rot.
Hi Ben. Bit of a random question as I am a novice when building things and this is my first large build. Any chance you can tell me what size screws you used and where to use them?
I was amazed when I got your blog, it really provide clear information regarding how to build your own decking area in detail and the tips you have shared with us are awesome. I liked and it is wonderful to know about so many things that are useful for all of us! Thanks a lot for this amazing blog!!
Really great ideas here, especially the picture frame and clothes hanger which are very artistic. I think like a lot of us I have the most trouble with necklaces, I store my jewelry in one little box to maintain them so I think I’ll have to try a drawer with the little dividers. Thanks for writing this post!
Another simple idea I used to do was to simply screw in little hooks on the inside of my wardrobe to hang my necklaces and stop them tangling. I always found mine would get so tangled when I kept them in a box. Thanks for reading and I’m glad you found the post inspiring 🙂
Yes, this does happen. Especially when the boards haven’t been dried properly. It also happens when there is a sudden change in temperature and humidity. When the boards are moved for a cold place to a hot place, for example an outside workshop into a warm heated house, the boards expand and contract rapidly causing them to split. It’s best to make small changes in temperature and let the boards adjust to new environments slowly.
With regards to planning permission, I want to build a veranda like yours but I want it to be 19ft X 13ft. will I need planning permission for this? as it is not a building just a glorified shed roof.
Thanks very much for posting this guide, exactly what I’m looking for in terms of building a workshop to replace an old shed that is beyond repair. I was considering block built, but this has convinced me that a decent timber frame structure should be ample.
HI, great instructional post. One question, is the roof really noisy when it rains? Don’t want to anger the neighbours by installing it and then driving them mad when it rains. Juts a rough idea would be great
The roof is fine, you can barely hear it. Just make sure you go for the thicker 1.1mm PVC sheets. You can always go for the even thicker sheets to reduce any noise further.
Hi Ben, thks for the guide, really informative. I’ve started building my shed today based of your spec. So far got the base/floor done. Can I ask what the height is between the top of your wall frame plate to the top of the roof rafters? I’m guessing about 30 cms to allow for the roof osb and the depth of the floor? Also the plate height is 2m not the stud height? Cheers Chris.
On the cladding you mention in comments above that you would do it differently. I’m thinking of making the frame flush with the posts and then boarding over posts and finishing with beading at the corners. This will also allow it to go over the floor at the bottom for extra protection. Having already build yours, any reason why this wouldn’t work?
Hiya, really nice job. Can i just ask, how did you seal it to the neighbours extension? I’m simply making a lean to roof in a small yard, the roof will be between our small extension and the neighbour’s,l extension and I’m just wondering how I will seal the side edges of my roof to the brick. flashing is obvious I know but my pitch won’t allow for nice “stair/stepped” flashing. the pitch won’t be steep enough! Thanks.
Great instructions ben i have all the materials in and will be starting this today mine is roughly 6.5m wide and 3.5m out from the house as i got the 3660mm long plastic sheets, i am also using 5 posts on mine as at later stage i want to add some nice rails etc wish me luck and thanks again…..
All finished would love to share a pic but not sure how to upload one
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That’s great Jonathon. Feel free to email me the pic and I can upload it to the post. Ben@wood-create.com
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Followed your design for our pergola but want to fit a polycarbonate roof 2700mm x 3050 mm. Would mini guttering ( 76mm ) be suitable rather than normal ( 112mm ) ? Cheers.
hi ben ive just found your site on how to build a shed from scratch and im going to start my one in july as weather should be good the difference is my one is going to be a long shed as opposed to square the overall lengh will be about 8 mtrs dom you think i will be able to get timbers that long or will i have to join them regards chris
Apart from the fence posts, it looks like all the timber you used was untreated. Is that because it was all going to be covered by the cladding and so not exposed to the elements? Did you treat any of the timber with a preservative yourself? E.g. the timbers of the base which sit on the slabs?
Did you put some kind of flooring on top of the membrane to protect it from the wear of trampling feet?
The timber isn’t treated as it should be protected from the elements due to the moisture barrier. It would however be a good idea to treat the wood for extended protection.
Ben, great write up and instructions. You have used a membrane on the inside walls. Did you clad this internally also ? What covers the plastic membrane?
John
For the internal of the shed there is nothing but the timber frame. It’s a simple build with only a frame, plastic membrane and the cladding. You can choose to add an internal wall made of ply, OSB or even plasterboard.
Ben, I have read this twice and looked at the photos. Where does the membrane go? It is on the floor in some photos and tucked under the front and then it is just tucked under but not on the actual floor. On the walls does it just stay exposed from the inside?
Ideally the membrane will cover the floor and tuck right underneath before you add the wall frames. Then the membrane on the walls will go right down to the floor. (tuck under is desired). The idea is to prevent moisture becoming stagnant under the base.
Hi Ben, I don’t have a workspace large enough for clamps (nor do I own any), do you know of any alternatives? I did see that someone suggested using ratchet straps.
Hey, really great guide. Was hoping you could shed some light on exactly what type/size of screw and plug you used for securing the beam to the wall of the house? It only says:
12 x and wall plugs (for fixing the 4×2 to the house wall)
Hi Dave, the materials list in the post covers this. They are 120mm (or 100mm is fine) hex bolts and 50mm x 10mm wall plug. I’ve just updated the post so that links are now available.
Excellent post! I am looking to create a patio with porcelain tiles myself this summer.
I am in Canada and we have cold winters. Currently I just have grass in the back. I plan on ripping the grass, adding gravel, compacting it with a compactor, then putting on cement and the porcelain tiles, any tips or ideas you could provide?
Thanks dal. The best advice is to ensure the sub-base is deep enough and solid before you start. Any movement in the base will play havoc on the porcelain tiles. Best of luck with your build.
I really don’t know about bamboo in hot climates sorry Mary. Try asking a local supplier who should be able to help. I hope you find the information you are looking for. Ben
Hi Ben and Jon I found your post/thread when trying to research how to put a veranda along the front of my 50s bungalow in a Somerset seaside village! now, even without going any further, I know that I can’t ‘build’ anything on the front or side elevations as they both ‘front a main highway’ (well, quiet cul de sac!) But I still wanted to comment as I think this is a fantastic post and am really interested to see how well someone else did the job following your instructions etc. I’m also commenting because (being a 63 year old single nearly-retiree) I didn’t fancy doing this myself but in my tiny rear courtyard I got a mate to erect something very similar that I bought off the peg for around 600GBP 3 years ago from a Scandinavian company (TUIN DECO) that usually make log cabins – it’s a car port 3m deep by 4m wide and the price included the polycarbonate panels but I haven’t used those (except for my chicken coop!) and still have some left that I’m thinking I might now use for a couple of the panels where it could do with being a bit more waterproof … This was because when I bought the house it had an old grapevine that was still living but had nowhere to climb/thrive! now it is trained up and over the open struts and is coming on nicely. doesn’t keep the area underneath dry but does provide shade!!! I’m going to read your decking post now as my courtyard is all old concrete plus the old base of a shed that was in it when I bought it – demolished that but it makes a nice raised platform just needs some cosmetic TLC!!! fantastic guys, I’ll read your posts again and follow you now I’ve found you! Best wishes, Christina
Great job Ben. Can I ask how many packs/lengths of cladding you ordered and what length they were. Have followed the link and seems to be coming out at a lot more than expected for my potentially 2.4mx2.4m (2m tall) shed. I’m approximating I’ll need 17 lengths of 2.4m per side plus a bit for the roof apex at the front. If I say 70 lengths this would be over £800. Am I missing something fundamental here ? Been a long day!
Hi Gary, Pricing has changed quite a bit with the loglap cladding since I built my shed so it’s going to be different. Prices have nearly doubled in the last year or so! Maybe due to Covid, I don’t know but I’m hoping the price will come down again. That’s partly why I started using the shiplap cladding as it’s cheaper.
Amazing build and writeup. And so nice of you to still answer questions years after the original article was posted.
I have a question about the stability of the structure.
I see you only anchored front posts to the concrete slabs which is my plan as well, and there are not 45 degree braces anywhere in the structure of the veranda. Which I would like to avoid as well purely for aesthetic reasons.
I assume veranda can’t move back and forth because it’s attached to the house. But what about sideways?
I see it’s leaning to the wall on the left hand side. Do you thing that wall is helping the structure’s rigidity or it would work just as well without it?
I have read a lot about digging holes for the posts and pouring concrete to help the stability of the structure but would like to avoid it if possible. What was the advice you were given regarding stability of your veranda?
Hi Dusan, I’ve not had any issues with stability. The structure has been secure and solid since installation due to cut outs on the posts and number of rafters. If you’re worried then digging holes with Postcrete is a good way to add strength and if you feel additional stability is required afterwards then 45 degree braces will surely help.
Good luck with your build.
Thanks for the reply Ben.
Just one more quick question.
I see yo have two swings hanging from your rafters. I’ve read a lot of forums (mostly american) and they are recommending rafter sizes almost double of what you have used if you want to have swing chairs.
I was just wondering how are your swing chairs holding? Do you have any concern about the weight you put on them (let’s say big 260lbs man).
My plan is to have a bit longer rafters than you, 2.7m, but that’s not much of a difference. Also I plan to use rafter hangers (people seem to be saying that they are structurally even better than notching the wood?)
Kind regards,
Dusan
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Hi Dule. We don’t have any issues with our swing chairs but please do your own calculations to make sure.
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Thank you for this. I built mine last year following your steps and it looks amazing.
Hi Ben. Very nice veranda. I have build similar veranda on my house.
Do you know from where (you or someone else) bought timber for partition next to the fence on second veranda ?
I wanted to reach out and thank you for your post . Your article really resonated with me. I am in the process of re-doing my patio so it has an updated look without breaking the bank. You did a great job highlighting some different options for materials that are more budget friendly than what I originally considered.
It’s nice to know that even if someone is new to DIY projects they can still get a custom looking patio by using tiles like yours! It seems much easier than having to lay down carpet or concrete slabs which take up space and cost money (not mention all the work).
Hi Fred. I personally like to buy Dewalt as I have done for many years. They are reliable and get the job done right. I’d also recommend Makita power tools or if you have the money then go for Festool power tools.
Thanks for reading
Ben
Some brilliant ideas but there are so many bad stories about rogue Airbnb renters as there also about Airbnb landlords who rent fake properties that the whole area is a minefield that frightens me.
I would never have thought of this, it’s a really good idea. When you’ve just finished a big project it can be hard to find the energy to do a really thorough clean.
Hi ! I read your blog and it is very nice blog. I check many online roofing companies for my roofing work but when I read your blog and I finally decide for which type of roofing service is perfect for my roofing work.
Great step by step guide, so thanks for taking the time to write and share this.
Am I right in thinking the loglap cladding is screwed through the waterproof membrane and into the end vertical wall batons and therefore creating a potential water path through the membrane?
Don’t get me wrong I think it’s an unlikely water path due to the compression between the cladding and membrane and not one I can think how to avoid right now, but just checking I’ve understood your construction correctly.
Potentially you are correct but I’ve not had any issues with damp etc. within the building. If you were concerned then you can always add an extra batten to raise the cladding off the membrane.
Do remember, this is a budget build shed so it’s up to you how far you want to take the construction. It very much depends on what you intend to use the structure for. Mine was intended originally just for shed storage space and it’s perfectly adequate for this.
Adjusting the desk in a small space is a very challenging task. But these options given by you can make the work easy. These handmade desks are amazing and also improves the overall look. I personally liked Hampshire rustic desk and the ASHME corner desk. Thank you very much for this article.
There is something very primal about these wood tables, but I would have to check that the wood is UK, and preferably locally sourced. I certainly would not want to encourage wood being bought from the Brazilian rainforest etc.
Box cutters are a great idea. And I can always do with a reminder to look for an opening perforation before trying to take a package apart the hard way!
There are some wonderfully designed pieces of quality furniture from the 50s and 60s, but the majority of furniture in the majority of homes reflected the post war austerity and was manufactured to a price rather than with quality. I suppose much of the lower quality furniture broke in the 50s and 60s, but there is still some junk out there.
A pond great but I have it difficult to maintain a pond in a state that encourages wildlife. Pond weeds may take over or algae can turn it into sludge or the water may evaporate. etc.etc.
Thanks for the comment. The plants we used in our pond help control algae so not really had any issues. But like the rest of the garden it needs a little maintenance from time to time.
This is so helpful. There’s a huge amount to consider, but making a plan and getting all the information you can in advance makes it a lot less intimidating.
Great build. Where are you based?! Just wondering if you would like to come and build similar to my house in Bristol! So hard to find someone to build for the costs you are talking about. Had a company quote nearly £30,000 for something similar but with glass! 😱
Great article, thank you. A shed is usually very useful for gardening, but can need a surprising amount of thought put into its design and construction.
This is very constructive, thank you. Being good at a form of art is one thing, running a business is another, and both take time and dedication to learn.
There’s lots here I didn’t know; thank you! I’d be tempted to get a professional in at least once, to see how much difference was made by their expertise.
The ceramic floor in the bathroom looks very cool, adds volume and generally makes the appearance cooler and more beautiful. very tired of these standard bathroom floors, regular tiles look very old-fashioned, BORED !!
I want to add that ceramic is very practical to use, it is easy to clean, if installed correctly, and there will never be mold.
I am glad that people are starting to care more and more about the design of the bathroom, I hope soon more and more posts on the Internet will be with such wonderful content.
Hi Ben, Fantastic post and patio looks awesome! I was intrigued by the part when you talk about the slurry primer and noticing a few rocky tiles towards the end. We’re currently having a porcelain patio laid and have used your blog to ‘gently nudge’ the chaps in the right direction. I think this is relatively new for them. Last night I managed to just lift up a couple of slabs from the front edge despite them using slurry primer and a nice mortar bed. Quite disappointed. So did you have to lift up slabs and replace them again when you found bonding wasn’t sufficient? And now a year on, is everything nice and secure? There’s no rocking on any slabs but I worry about months down the line and whether they will lift or rock, esp the ones in the centre now.
Challenge yourself with some new skills and learn as you go along.Hiring the professionals is a sensible approach when you have no idea, but if you’re like me then you can challenge yourself and learn some new skills along the way.I have one paint website which name is pickpaint it gives best paint reviews and best paint quality I hope you like my website go and check Thanks.
Thanks for the inspiration. I added the decking and lighting too. Furniture on the way. Was a big project (for me anyway) but it looks fantastic. I’m a software developer so stuff like this isn’t remotely what I do. But I really enjoyed it – and wouldn’t have started it if I hadn’t stumbled across this guide. Photos here:
Nice work Gabhan! Looks like you have a good level of skills for the work. I worked in IT when I completed mine so in a similar boat. You have a lovely garden. Ben
Thank you for this very informative article. The blog is great! You have written a lot of things that will surely benefit many. Hope you will continue sharing your knowledge with us. Brendon
I have been reading about the benefits of having a veranda for years. I was so excited to find this guide! It gives great tips on how to build your own veranda and what you can do with it once built. The guide is very detailed and has lots of pictures which are easy to understand. I love that it provides details on different types of wood, materials needed and the step by step instructions. Thank you for this wonderful article.
Hi there, I’m looking at purchasing one of these cabins – I can’t seem to find the answers on the Billy Oh website so thought I would ask you. Do you know if you can orientate the the doors/windows differently on these office? Like, for example as you are looking at the office, could you have the door to the right instead of the left?
Hi Ben – I’m looking to buy the BillyOh Fraya Pent Log Cabin 4×3 for a garden office to use all year round. I’m thinking of putting it on a solid concrete base. I’m based in Scotland so was looking into good insulation options to keep it warm during the colder months. Any advice please?
I was thinking about insulting the floor (underneath the floor supplied) , roof (underneath and then covering with a plaster board and three walls (internally by building a frame) from inside using something like a 44mm kingspan. Any thoughts?
Many thanks,
Max
Hi Max
I guess there are many way to achieve this. This is how I would approach it personally.
For the floor/base, a solid concrete base is always a good option. It provides a sturdy long lasting foundation for your building. It does however make it a little more difficult to insulate. I would still build a ~100m thick wooden frame on top of the concrete base which will house the Kingspan insulation boards you mentioned. (The thicker the better). You can then build the log cabin directly on top of this frame. (discard the bearers provided with the kit as this will allow cold air between the insulation and the cabin.)
As for the walls, I would use Rockwool insulation and plasterboard over the top. The thickness will depend on how much space you’re willing to sacrifice inside. (4x3m isn’t that big. Taking ~80mm off all the interior walls will reduce the interior significantly). I would go with a 25mm Rockwool and a 9.5mm plasterboard, just to keep the thickness to a minimum. If however you are happy to lose the space then again, thicker is better.
There is plenty of space in the roof of these buildings so some more Kingspan boards are a good idea and easier to fit than the Rockwool.
I hope this has helped. Remember, this is just my opinion. Please do your own research. There are some good videos on YouTube if you need more ideas.
I’ve also written a post about how I insulated my old shed conversion. See it here: https://wood-create.com/2021/02/14/how-to-build-a-garden-office-from-scratch-on-a-budget/
Thanks for reading my post and all the best with your build.
Ben
Thanks for the suggestion. I will be providing more plans in the future but they do take me quite a while to produce. A lot of time goes into each plan. Please check back in the future for more. Thanks, Ben
Hi, not sure I understand the question. Cutting the boards in half is irrelevant for the purpose of the build. It was just part of the story of how I could fit them in the van.
I’ve never built a shed before and now really need a studio outside . Thanks for so generously sharing your knowledge, challenges, costs, photos and tips! Congratulations on your progress. Pleased to have found you!
That is a difficult question as pricing changes almost daily. You would need to get some prices from your local hardware store for an accurate cost. Thanks, Ben
Love this and want one for our garden. We are also in Cornwall (North) and the only reservation I have is the wind. Do you find any issue – you look fairly sheltered but our location is less so. Thanks very much.
Thanks Louise. I also have reservations about the wind. I’ve not had the chance to see how it fairs in strong winds yet so that test is still to come. The structure feels really strong and the polycarbonate sheets feel fixed in place so I think it will Withstand strong winds. I did buy some additional fixings for the sheets but decided not to use them. I can send you the link to them if you want?
Do you know where I can get affordable 4m solid sheets? Generally the max I can find is about 3m and they are crazy expensive. I’ve tried the link above but roofingsuperstore don’t seem to sell them,
No it is not! Cheers pal, gonna start the frame before I make a final decision on the roofing. Will prob end up with multiwall or clear corrugated tbh. Solid looks so much better but so pricey.
Both yours look amazing btw – i’m pretty much hoping for a a carbon copy of your first one.
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Thanks Tommy and good luck with your build!
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Hi Ben,
Nice build!
This is pretty much exactly what I have planned to build, but have a couple of questions on yours before I proceed.
1. How did you apply the flashing after the roof was already up?
I was thinking of applying the flashing 1 meter at a time after fitting each sheet, but I can see from the pics that you didn’t do that. I’m guessing you had to climb on top of it which I don’t fancy trying.
2. How is the noise from the rain?
I know the noise on the double layer polycarbonate isn’t great, but I’ve no experience with the solid clear stuff (which is the material I’d rather use).
Nice Build! That’s pretty much what I’m planning on building, but have a couple of questions about yours before I start.
1. How did you apply the flashing?
It looks as though you must have climbed on top of the roof to apply it at the end. I’m thinking of applying it one meter at a time by leaning over after I install each roof panel.
2. What’s the rain noise like?
I know that it’s not great on the multiwall stuff compared to glass, but I’ve not used the solid clear stuff before. I’m just a bit concerned as the veranda will be over some patio doors connected to the living room.
Q1. To apply the flashing I used a couple of long boards braced over the top of the veranda. I used wet towels to cushion the boards and prevent them from slipping away from underneath me. It was a bit sketchy but managed to complete the job. Your way could also work!
Q2. The solid polycarbonate is very similar to glass and noise is minimal. I’ve honestly not noticed it since I installed the veranda a couple of months ago.
This looks really tidy, well done!! I’m curious how are you getting on and how did this cope with the heat this week? I’m looking into options for a garden studio and your posts are a real inspiration for going down the DIY route but I’d want to use it comfortably year round.
Hi Alex. Thanks! It been pretty good in the heat. Stayed cool for most the day (with windows closed) but started to heat up a bit in the late afternoons. A fan helped circulate the air for the hottest parts. It reached about 26 degrees at its hottest. I will likely install a mini log burner this autumn in preparation for winter. Shout if you have any more questions and I’ll do my best to answer them. Ben
Hi James. Sorry this wasn’t clear. The plastic barrier goes over the wooden base and then ticks underneath. It isn’t essential but does add another layer of protection from rot etc.
Regards
Ben
Thanks for the tips Ben. I’m about to start a chest of drawers so these helpful hints will come in handy!
Thanks Elf, interested to see how you get on and you may get different results with different wood types.
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Hi Ben, your post is very interesting. Thank you for all your tips. I’m going to be a first timer. I am about to purchase a chicken house and run, but as you state, they are all 100cm high. I’m thinking of extending the run and making a higher enclosed run similar to yours. Hopefully I can do it as time for me is very tight with two boys under 3. Was your run you made easy enough, how long did it take you?
Hi Mike, it didn’t take too long. A couple of days over a weekend should be enough if you have all the materials and some decent tools. The base was probably the most complicated part.
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Nice Article! Solar is amazing. I’m looking at Wind power as well (turbines) to generate electricity. I’d add that, with having a NAS in your home, it also gives you the opportunity to connect you to your media/tv to it aswell, NAS are also often DLNA devices (digital living network alliance). So, any films you can put on your device – you can steal directly to the tv per say. The tv has to also be a DLNA certified capable (smart) TV but, once it is you can simply download the ‘Video’ app on the TV and, it’s a simple player that’ll play and display films or even photos from the device – similar to the Apple TV. 1080p and 4K will stream to it, also, skipping or scanning through to certain parts of films is so quick and efficient to do. Truly amazing technology, worth harnessing in 2018! Just to add to your article, enjoyed the read!
Thanks Royston! Wind power is the next logical step I think. Thanks for the advice on the smart TVs, I didn’t know you could connect a NAS. Will be getting one for the kids play room soon. Thanks again, Ben
hi.
nice project. do you need planning permission for this?
Many thanks
No. This one didn’t. Always best to check the planning portal to double check if you’re unsure.
I’m building a simple lean to 2.8m x 5m. 2.5m high. more or less same design with polycarbonate roof. it will be open on all sides. the structure will be anchored to the ground exactly like yours.
the house is terraced is not in a reservation area. we will use it just as a dry place in the garden to hang clothes or have a meal in the summer. 2 builders told me that I don’t need planning permission for this.
Many thanks for your reply.
Sounds great! Send me the post when your done 🙂
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Hi, Firstly thank you for posting such an in depth instructional post. This is exactly what i want to do, i have a 5.0 width. I leveled my garden in the winter and built a deck so you step out the back of the patio doors straight onto the deck. I have a few questions.
1: I don’t think i have as much room above my door, 1 brick height before it stick out for the gutter, is this okay, can i reduce the wood size from 47×100 to 47×75? If not how would it work with it above? can i attach to the fascia, i was dubious on this?
2: Can i attach to the deck?
3: Can i get away with a post at each end with a 5m span? have to be 4.8 i think as no timber long enough.
i can post a picture of my back garden to help you see what i mean?
Thanks again for the great post!
Hi Paddy, thanks for you’re note. I’m afraid I’m not able to advise you on your questions. You should seek professional advise if you are unsure on your project. I did my own research and spoke to professionals which were only specific to my build. All the best with you’re build. Ben
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very good your tips
Informative post! I love the way French polishing looks.
I’ve just switched to Bulb this month. This is my third switch this year. I’m hoping they turn out to be my last one for a while. Trying to get the balance between affordable and competent when it comes to energy suppliers is a tricky balancing act.
Absolutely! They were the cheapest for us when we did a comparison, but I also like the fact they use renewable electricity. They’ve also been very responsive to messages which is always a great sign 🙂
Their app is also brilliant. They remind you it’s meter read time, you send the reading and ‘hey presto’ it’s used to calculate your bill. They are very organised. I love it because it means I can calculate how much I’m using (like a SMART metre but without the metre) and over time I can use it to calculate my yearly bill. I just hope they don’t go under like so many of the competition.
I agree the app is great. I used it the other day to amend how much my monthly payment is as I was paying a bit too much. So handy to be able to control things like that on the app and not have to go on a desktop to login. Fingers crossed they stick around and keep bills as low as possible 🙂
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I needed this post!
I’ve managed to cut household bills in all sorts of ways. I switched energy provider 3 times last year, plus you make cashback if you use the right sites to do it. I’ve cut my water bill in half because I have a water metre and I am extra careful with water. The same with gas and electric, only use what you really need. I’ve also changed car insurance this year saving me £100 (loyalty to a company gets you nowhere) and I’ve found a new breakdown recovery company that’s half what I’m paying now. I’ve got really good with my food bills too. I’ve learned what I really need and what I don’t and this year I am going to grow lots of my own veg which will cut back on that bill for sure. I’ve also taken advantage of banks offering money to switch and opened lots of accounts with small interest rates. By my calculation I’ll have made over £3000 outside of my earnings.
As for the no spend, January was going to be mine too, but it hasn’t quite panned out that way so February will be my extra frugal month too. Not that I can get much more frugal than I already am, but my ‘extra spending’ needs to go down. Investing in my veg growing plan has been an overspend but sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate!
Wow, three energy switches, that’s great if you’ve saved money each time and got cashback! I’m looking forward to a no-spend Feb. We have been more careful than usual in January and it’s been great to top our savings up.
I’m also doing a zero spend on clothes for the entire year. I don’t usually spend much on clothing anyway and have a very minimal wardrobe, but I think it will stop me making any random purchases at all if I set myself the actual challenge. I do sometimes buy a couple of items of clothing every couple of months and I really think I don’t always need to.
I’ve not yet switched bank accounts, but I have seen some very tempting offers, some offering £100 to switch to a current account and they transfer all the direct debits, etc, so it does look quite hassle free. I should definitely look into this more.
I saw a money blogger write about something similar once. They had lots of accounts with different banks and they had it all set up very cleverly to switch money between them each month to take advantage of cashback, rewards and interest from each one. It would take some planning!
Growing your own veg is great! We grow some every year, but only a small amount. I’d love to grow more and plan to in the future. I hope your growing goes well 🙂
Natwest’s swtich is £150. I’ll be completing mine tomorrow. RBS have matched the offer so if you can find two accounts to switch, you’ve made £300 and yes they do all the move for you.
Well the 3 switches were from BG when I moved in here last April and they wanted £70 a month for a single person in a small flat, the second was from Economy Energy who went bust last month. I moved in November though. They were incredibly incomptetent. So here I am with Bulb.
I’ve opened 7 accounts since last September and I have do money switches every month to keep them earning the max. I keep everything on spreadsheets otherwise I’ll lose track but I’m probably making about £800 a year. It’s not a huge amount but I can’t afford to lock money away for a long time so I get lots of accounts with high interest on small amounts and then just keep bouncing the money back and forth. It does the job.
I’ve been doing the ‘no buy’ on clothing for about 4 years now. I’m very much make do and mend because I’m a fashion designer so it’s easy for me to repairs and alterations. I also never get rid of clothes so I rotate summer and winter wardrobes. I used to buy a lot of clothes so I have more than enough. 🙂
Thank you so much for reading 🙂
Great advise! I have a house currently for sale. I have used many of your thoughts and validated them against my own. It is amazing in this hotter than most market what people will put up with. My house is not perfect but.. it does not have paint pealing all over. As an example… it makes my house and the asking price stick out as more reasonable. All good advice here. Thank you.
Hi Joe, thanks so much for reading and best of luck with the sale of your house, it sounds in great condition 🙂
Hi Ben,
thanks for the instructional post, I want to do something similar in my garden soon!
Would you mind explaining how you figured out the cutting angles for the rafters (point #5) to maintain the 4% slope please?
Thanks!
Hi Daniele.
My maths isn’t great so I used a triangle calculator. Simply put in the lengths and the calculator will do the rest for you. This is the one I used: https://www.calculator.net/triangle-calculator.html
Hope this helps, Ben
Hi Ben,
thanks for the quick reply, neat tool!
Unfortunately, my maths is probably worse than yours, so I’m not sure I understand how you used it 😛
Hi Daniele
It’s difficult to explain without drawing a picture.
I’ll update my post later today with a diagram which should help.
Regards
Ben
Thanks for the drawing, that’s much clearer! You were certainly right about that.
Cheers,
Daniele
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great page, exactly what i was looking for.
Thanks for sharing!
BTW I still have to start mine!!
Thanks DH,
Good luck making yours! 😁👍🏼
Hi, I’m in Gloucester.
Ooh wow – so organised – step by step !
Hi, Can I ask how you secured the 90mm Corner Posts to the floor?
Hi, it’s not secured to the floor itself. The walls and roof rafters support these posts to prevent them from moving.
Thanks for sharing these tips, Ben. It would be helpful in starting my woodworking business someday!
Hi Ben What wood material did you use for the outside of your shed? I’ve read through but, I don’t see what type of wood or brand it is and if this is tongue and groove. My husband has built our shed and we are deciding on the outside covering. We live in Ontario, Canada. Thank you, Deborah
Hi Deborah. It’s called loglap timber cladding and comes in a number of different sizes. It’s a type of tongue and groove with rounded sides. Not sure if this product is available in Canada
Hi Ben, your shed is 360 x 300cm But in the shopping list the longest wood you list is 2400mm. Did you have to join the wood for base and walls? If so, how did you do it?
Hi Mantas, if you check again you will see that I have in fact used 2.4m, 3m and 3.6m 3×2 timber.
Hi Ben, please can you tell me what you used theCLS 38x63x2400 for ?
And also C16 3×2. ?
Thanks
Allan
Hi Allen, I’ve just updated the post so hopefully it’s a little clearer now. Basically the C16 was used for the base frame main supports and the wall frames top and bottom pieces.
Hello, Terrific post, i really liked this and helped me out a lot, many
thanks.
Thanks, I have been looking for details about this topic for ages and yours is the best I’ve discovered so far.
Hi Ben , very helpful informed process of building a shed thanks , just one thing what is the height of it please ?
Hi Jez. Total height is roughly 2.4m. Wall height was 2m.
Hi Ben, great write up. It’s inspired me to build my own! I have a sticking point. Where my shed will be, the back and one side will be against my red brick house walls. I don’t know whether to sit hard up against the brick or leave my stud wall away from the brick and then if so what to clad it in as it will be out of sight I don’t want to ship lap it.
Hi Dan. I guess you could join the shed to the house but you will need to research suitable flashing materials to ensure a water tight fit. The easier option is to build away from the brick walls. the cladding you then use will be dependant on what you are using the shed for. Maybe just a cheaper tongue and groove cladding. I would advise enough space to get down the sides, firstly for building access and secondly maintenance reasons.
Cheers Ben, I’m going to build away from it. Wood is bought, frame work begins tomorrow! One question, did you pre drill holes for the 5×75 screws? I’ve read conflicting opinions.
I used a countersink bit set to about 30mm depth to drill pilot holes. 👍🏼
I did pre drill holes on mine, but only to the depth of piece of wood.
Hi Ben,
I’ve basically followed your instructions to the letter and I’m at the point of finishing the cladding but haven’t chosen how I’m going to paint/stain the cladding.
Could I ask what you used and what you’d recommend? I’m not looking to change the colour of the cladding much as I like the grain, maybe a few tints darker like on yours.
I’m thinking a stain but I know they can be tricky and not exactly weather proof.
Thanks,
Hi Issac, you could try a clear water protective treatment such as ‘Barrettine Log Cabin Treatment’. It can be expensive but it’s one of the best for clear shed protection. You could also try a decking oil, like ‘Ronseal Ultimate Protection Decking Oil’. 5L should be plenty. Regards, Ben
Hi Ben, very informative and helpful write up for building a shed. By far the easiest to follow guide I have found and the one I intend to use when (if) I get around to replacing my shed.
I’m curious about the edges of the OSB that makes the floor. Due to the 19mm inset you have between the walls and the corner posts, and therefore the flush-fit cladding, the cladding stops before covering this edge. Does this mean the edge of this OSB exposed to the elements?
Thanks,
John
Thanks John.
I’ve laid a waterproof membrane on the floor to protect the flooring and also allowed a slight overhang for the cladding. Given the chance to do again I would probably do it slightly differently. But not exactly sure how at this point.
Hi,
Thanks for this, really useful. Can I ask how you dealt with your home drain pipe? Did you make a hole in the veranda roof?
Thanks
Pretty much, yes. Just cut through the corrugated sheets with a small hacksaw. It’s not water right but it didn’t need to be for this section.
Hi
Appreciate the guide. What Ronseal paint did you use? How is the paint holding up now?
It just Ronseal she’d and fence paint. It’s holding up well because very little water actually gets to the cladding, because I went for a large overhanging roof.
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Ben posted: “The requirements when it comes to roofing insulation can vary quite a bit from state to state. There are a variety of reasons why this is the case: the local climate—both natural and political—and the state’s commitment to energy efficiency are key among”
Hi – This looks so good.
I am renovating a similar set up on my dormer bungalow. Not as refined as yours but a great addition to the house. Current set up had upvc fascia board up to join the guttering. Did you join the guttering to the joists? .
Yes
Hi Ben
I am wanting to build my first run.
How do you make it fox proof, would you run the wire below ground?
Also, I have no wood so would have to buy and scrounge it, so what wood am I looking for?
My email is lowson.amy@gmail.com
Take a look at my other post which might answer you questions. https://wood-create.com/2017/06/24/chicken-coop-and-run/
Hi Ben, have you altered the materials list at all? A couple of weeks ago it contained hyperlinks to the B&Q products but now it just has a number in each apart from the cladding.
Hi, I might have edited but the links should still work for each of the products listed. Try reloading the page to see if that works.
Sorted now. It was the Adblocker stopping them from appearing.
Hi Ben
What did you use for the roof covering on your pergola?
Corrugated bitumen roofing sheets.
Hi Ben, just want to say thank you for this amazing guide. Would a non-decking paint works if budget is in mind? Any recommendation?
Thanks Mark. Honestly I don’t know but I would not risk it. Stick with a decking paint or it’s likely the paint won’t last as long.
Hi Ben, just want to say thank you for this amazing guide. Would a non-decking paint works if budget is in mind? Any recommendation?
Always stick with decking paint for the best results.
Hi Ben. This is a tremendous account of your project and exactly the type of veranda I had visualised for my back garden. I searched to get an idea of wood sizes before I start my own one and found your detailed account. Brilliant and thanks very much!
Brilliant post, really enjoyed reading it
Amazing really liked reading all of it. Congratulations on the job. It looks very nice.
Hi, great article, I’m going to build my own carport so I found all your tips and tricks very useful as this can be easily adapted into my ideas
Very interesting to read! Thanks for sharing these great information.
Great job! Glad to see so much described blog about decking! Now i am thinking about decking my area on my own! Thanks a lot
What is roof supports made of? not clear
Same timber as the walls.
Great write up thanks for doing this. Richard
Very honest and very Informative indeed. Even mentioning the mistake of mixing up too much grout is really helpful and has probably saved a lot of people time and money as well as avoiding staining the tiles. Great job, very meticulous great photos to appreciate your hard work. Thank you have helped tremendously.. 👍
This is a really great content, I can see how detailed you have gone through and explained about how to build your own decking area. I love this article, thanks for producing such great contents. I love your posts always.
Wow! Glad I popped by your blog. Thanks for sharing these great tips and ideas!
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The garden designs gave me new ideas about how I would use smart woodworking tools more effectively.
Beautiful table! How are the legs attached on the bottom? Is it a metal screw in plate?
Simply screwed into place.
Hi Ben,
Thanks for the post. Where did you get the fence from?
Hi Hannah. It was from a local garden centre but I would recommend getting something a bit taller. Our chickens could easily jump over this one. Needs to be about 5ft tall ideally.
The gardensbuildingsdirect link points to a generic dns page suggesting that the site doesn’t exist any more.
Thanks for taking the time to let me know Stephen! All updated now.
Love this table. Quick question. Looking to build one similar. Would biscuits be needed or could I miss the biscuit join part and wood glue and follow other steps??? Thinking of using Scaffold boards (new) 1.8m length, 23cm wide and 3.5 cm thick. Will these boards be ok to use or could you advise any others? I know to mix the grain so they are different to stop warping. Anything else to look at without warping?
Hi Reece, scaffold boards are fine but it’s best to use biscuits which will keep the boards all in line. They can easily twist and warp indoors. Get yourself a moisture meter and make sure the wood you use is 10% or less.
Hi Ben
Great description. How did you power the light – did you run mains or is it solar/battery?
If mains – any particular advice on getting power to the shed – ducting etc?
And did you clad internally or just leave the plastic exposed?
Hi Steve. I’ve run mains to the shed. You’ll need a qualified electrician for this or to sign it off. You’ll need an armoured cable in ducting in the ground or along the fence. You’ll need to read into this yourself as it will depend on how far you are going and power requirements. Easier to get an electrician to install.
No cladding internally yet but will be insulating and plasterboard soon.
Thanks Ben
Really appreciate the time taken to create this guide. I’m just designing a smaller version of your shed and working out what materials I need, so quick question – what timber did you use to make the roof trusses? Was it the cls 63mm x 38mm? Thanks
Yes, that’s correct. You can go for a 2:4 if you want it a bit stronger but the 3:4 should be fine with 600mm intervals.
Hey Ben
Great work! I’ve been looking at building something very similar, but I’ve always worried about the corrugated plastic roof as it would be right underneath our bedroom window. Do you find the roofing noisy when it rains? Might be a weird question, but I hope you can help 🙂
Not a weird question at all as lots of people think about this. We haven’t had any issues with it. It’s right next to our living room and our daughters bedroom and it’s never been an issue. You have to make sure you buy the thicker stuff as the thin will sound much louder. Try at least the 1.1mm thick or 1.3mm thick for better sound deadening. Don’t buy 0.9mm thickness.
Brilliant! Thanks for this!
Thank for the answer, good info
Hi Ben. Great guide. Going to build my own but only 2400mm wide. I’m having trouble working the length of the rafters for my size shed. Did you use any sort of calculation when working out the length of your rafters or could you tell me how long each side of the rafter needs to be. Thanks again. Mark
Hi Mark. I just guessed the size so it’s really up to you. There is no precise science behind it but take into consideration the size of the boards for the roof which normally come in 2440x1220mm size. The less cutting the easier. 👍🏼
Hi Ben, thank you very much for the information 🙂 I am currently trying out this type of table but have a couple of questions. Do you use a thicknesses or planer to straighten out the boards? Ours are a little warped, if we use a planer I’m worried they’ll just end up looking like new boards or take too much of the character out of them? But if we don’t they end up having one edge sticking up or not sitting flash together. If you have any advice for us that would be very appreciated!
Hi Hannah. You really need to use straight boards. You might get away with slightly warped boards boards but not too much. You could try and flatten them but I don’t think this will help much and like you say it will take the patina out of them. Either try and get some different boards or ‘reset the ones you have. To do this you will need to lay them flat for a couple of months and moisten them periodically. With a bit of weight on top they should go flat again. Then you need to dry them out. I guess they were stored upright which is why they have warped? I had some boards that were stored upright and were quite warped but after leaving them flat for several months they were fine. Hope this helps. Ben
Thank you that’s a lot of help! They arrived wet so we had them stored upright! 😬
You’re welcome. 🙂 If they arrived wet then the best thing to do is lay them flat inside, ideally next to a radiator and you should see them return to normal after a few weeks.
Hi just after some help please. My husband has made a table using scaffolding boards and used woodfiller once it was put together. He has now used Danish oil but the wood filler is leaving white strips as its not absorbing the oil. What can we do about it?
Hi Emma. I don’t think you will ever blend the colour perfectly. Oil won’t penetrate the wood filler so I would suggest using a stain instead. Try the Ronseal interior stain that I have used on my tables. Hope this helps. Ben
Circular saw is most efficient and most useful tools. I have a circular saw and use frequent. Thank you for the post.
Hey Ben,
Thank you for share your helpful content with us..
I am Lover of DEwalt & ryobi power tools brand. i am collected Jigsaw of dewalt brand, it’s work very nicely.
i am happy to use this brand. What brand of Jigsaw do you recommend and why?
I’d stick with Dewalt as they are well made and I can use the same battery packs.
Hi Ben
Would you say these build materials are sufficiently robust to use the shed as a bar with a wall mounted tv. I’d intend on putting insulation inside and some interior panelling on top of therefore. Also is the wood pre treated or did you treat after – as the final shed looks painted or stained.
Thanks!
John
Hi John
Easily strong enough to support a fair bit of weight. Try adding diagonal supports between the posts to add strength. I’ve got a new post where I am insulating and extending the original build. You can see the progress here: https://wood-create.com/2021/02/14/how-to-build-a-garden-office-from-scratch-on-a-budget/
Hello, great post thank you! What timber did you use for the doorway frame? What timber for the door frames?Any bracing aside form the vertical loglap on the doors?
Hi, I would put a diagonal brace on the door frame and then lap on top. This will prevent and warping. The timber is the same as the walls. You might also do the same on the walls depending on whether you will be putting any weight inside.
Thank you very much for sharing these ideas. I really appreciate your efforts for creating this exceptionally well content. I was looking for such content about how to build your own decking area, you have really helped me with the same, great post!!
Hi, general question please. What are the noise levels like on the roof when it rains?
Not too bad but make sure you go for the thicker 1.1 or 1.3mm sheets as they won’t be so noisy.
This is really appreciated that you have presented all data on how to build your own decking area. I love all the information shared. I like how you have researched and presented these exact points so clearly. Great article!
This are great words for every one carious in woodworking or any business Ben. Thank you and I wish you very successful business.
I find it helpful that you said I should consider the color of the bed frame to ensure it would match my bedroom’s color scheme. It’s also great that you mentioned I should consider getting something in black or white since those colors are universal. My husband and I plan to purchase a new bed frame for our bedroom soon, so thanks for this tip!
Hi Ben
Great write up of your build, very informative.
I’m thinking of doing something similar – can I ask how your shed been for condensation and damp so far?
I’m wondering about putting the polythene sheet under the base frame make a difference – it would stop damp rising up from underneath but allow ventilation. Also possible to infill gaps in the frame with insulation perhaps.
Andy
Thanks Andy. I made sure there was ample ventilation in the eaves which prevents any condensation build up. I’ve also just started building an extension and insulating so will write this up and share at some point.
Keeping home office in eco friendly way – excellent! Thank you…
Hello,
Brilliant instructions thanks.
I have made my table. 2m long.
I have used osmo amber oil tint.
We have ordered some faux leather tan counter lever chairs. However they have not arrived yet. I am ready to attach the legs to the table. I bought x cross shaped legs. I’m just wondering if there are any measurement as to where I place the legs. We will have 8 chairs. 3 either side and 1 either end. I just don’t want some chairs so they won’t go underneath. Alternatively I will wait for the chairs to arrive.
Thankyou.
Also do you have andthing with regards to making coffee tables??
Many thanks.
WiL
Hi Wil, you will want to wait until you have the chairs ideally as this may affect where the legs are mounted. I tend to mount my legs about 30cm in from each end to allow suitable leg room. This can be reduced slightly but no more than 26cm.
Good luck finishing off your project.
Ben
Hi this is amazing and what a great find. being a novice with a modicum of DIY experience it fills me with confidence. The one thing that I’m most concerned with is getting it all level as the garden has a small degree of slope. How do you achieve that with those corner pads?
Also is it worth filling the gaps in between the floor frame with something so I don’t get vermin hiding\living underneath.
Also is the floorboard treated or weather proofed in any way.
I may be getting a bit concerned about obviously small things here.
Thanks again
Try levelling your garden by digging out one side and raising the other. You might want to make a raised base for this. Try my decking post to see how this is done. https://wood-create.com/2020/04/13/how-to-build-your-own-decking-area/
If you can fill the gaps then it’s probably a good idea. I however like that I have provided shelter for hedgehogs etc.
The floorboards are not treated but they are covered with a waterproof barrier which prevents rot.
Hi Ben. Bit of a random question as I am a novice when building things and this is my first large build. Any chance you can tell me what size screws you used and where to use them?
Mostly used 80mm screws which are used to join the timber frame. Simply pilot hole drill into the top and bottom rail to secure the upright posts.
I was amazed when I got your blog, it really provide clear information regarding how to build your own decking area in detail and the tips you have shared with us are awesome. I liked and it is wonderful to know about so many things that are useful for all of us! Thanks a lot for this amazing blog!!
Lovely! Thank you 😊
Really great ideas here, especially the picture frame and clothes hanger which are very artistic. I think like a lot of us I have the most trouble with necklaces, I store my jewelry in one little box to maintain them so I think I’ll have to try a drawer with the little dividers. Thanks for writing this post!
Another simple idea I used to do was to simply screw in little hooks on the inside of my wardrobe to hang my necklaces and stop them tangling. I always found mine would get so tangled when I kept them in a box. Thanks for reading and I’m glad you found the post inspiring 🙂
Hi Ben,
Great article, love the table! Have you ever experienced the reclaimed scaffold boards cracking splitting all the way through?
Best regards
JP
Yes, this does happen. Especially when the boards haven’t been dried properly. It also happens when there is a sudden change in temperature and humidity. When the boards are moved for a cold place to a hot place, for example an outside workshop into a warm heated house, the boards expand and contract rapidly causing them to split. It’s best to make small changes in temperature and let the boards adjust to new environments slowly.
Hi Ben,
With regards to planning permission, I want to build a veranda like yours but I want it to be 19ft X 13ft. will I need planning permission for this? as it is not a building just a glorified shed roof.
I don’t know Joe. There are many different factors that only you can answer. I would suggest contacting your local council to find out.
Thanks very much for posting this guide, exactly what I’m looking for in terms of building a workshop to replace an old shed that is beyond repair. I was considering block built, but this has convinced me that a decent timber frame structure should be ample.
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HI, great instructional post. One question, is the roof really noisy when it rains? Don’t want to anger the neighbours by installing it and then driving them mad when it rains. Juts a rough idea would be great
Hi Si
The roof is fine, you can barely hear it. Just make sure you go for the thicker 1.1mm PVC sheets. You can always go for the even thicker sheets to reduce any noise further.
Hi Ben, thks for the guide, really informative. I’ve started building my shed today based of your spec. So far got the base/floor done. Can I ask what the height is between the top of your wall frame plate to the top of the roof rafters? I’m guessing about 30 cms to allow for the roof osb and the depth of the floor? Also the plate height is 2m not the stud height? Cheers Chris.
Hi Chris, I can’t remember exactly but the overall height is 2.4m so I would say you’re pretty close with your calculations.
Hi, great post. Given me lots to think about.
On the cladding you mention in comments above that you would do it differently. I’m thinking of making the frame flush with the posts and then boarding over posts and finishing with beading at the corners. This will also allow it to go over the floor at the bottom for extra protection. Having already build yours, any reason why this wouldn’t work?
Sounds like a very sensible plan. No reason not to. Good luck with your build.
Hiya, really nice job. Can i just ask, how did you seal it to the neighbours extension? I’m simply making a lean to roof in a small yard, the roof will be between our small extension and the neighbour’s,l extension and I’m just wondering how I will seal the side edges of my roof to the brick. flashing is obvious I know but my pitch won’t allow for nice “stair/stepped” flashing. the pitch won’t be steep enough! Thanks.
I’ve not sealed any part to the walls. You’ll need to research this separately.
Great instructions ben i have all the materials in and will be starting this today mine is roughly 6.5m wide and 3.5m out from the house as i got the 3660mm long plastic sheets, i am also using 5 posts on mine as at later stage i want to add some nice rails etc wish me luck and thanks again…..
Best of luck Jonathon. Post a pic when you finish! 😁👍🏼
All finished would love to share a pic but not sure how to upload one
That’s great Jonathon. Feel free to email me the pic and I can upload it to the post. Ben@wood-create.com
Followed your design for our pergola but want to fit a polycarbonate roof 2700mm x 3050 mm. Would mini guttering ( 76mm ) be suitable rather than normal ( 112mm ) ? Cheers.
I’m not sure sorry John. You’ll have to research this one yourself.
hi ben ive just found your site on how to build a shed from scratch and im going to start my one in july as weather should be good the difference is my one is going to be a long shed as opposed to square the overall lengh will be about 8 mtrs dom you think i will be able to get timbers that long or will i have to join them regards chris
Hi Chris, I think you’ll struggle to find any timber over 4.8m.
Hi Ben,
Apart from the fence posts, it looks like all the timber you used was untreated. Is that because it was all going to be covered by the cladding and so not exposed to the elements? Did you treat any of the timber with a preservative yourself? E.g. the timbers of the base which sit on the slabs?
Did you put some kind of flooring on top of the membrane to protect it from the wear of trampling feet?
The timber isn’t treated as it should be protected from the elements due to the moisture barrier. It would however be a good idea to treat the wood for extended protection.
Reclaimed wood has a surface and patina almost impossible to recreate. The good news is that one person’s junk is another’s treasure.
Ben, great write up and instructions. You have used a membrane on the inside walls. Did you clad this internally also ? What covers the plastic membrane?
John
For the internal of the shed there is nothing but the timber frame. It’s a simple build with only a frame, plastic membrane and the cladding. You can choose to add an internal wall made of ply, OSB or even plasterboard.
Ben, I have read this twice and looked at the photos. Where does the membrane go? It is on the floor in some photos and tucked under the front and then it is just tucked under but not on the actual floor. On the walls does it just stay exposed from the inside?
Ideally the membrane will cover the floor and tuck right underneath before you add the wall frames. Then the membrane on the walls will go right down to the floor. (tuck under is desired). The idea is to prevent moisture becoming stagnant under the base.
Hi Ben, I don’t have a workspace large enough for clamps (nor do I own any), do you know of any alternatives? I did see that someone suggested using ratchet straps.
Regards
Uday
Hi Uday, I have used ratchet straps before and had quite good results. Just make sure the boards are held flat with a clamped support beam.
Thanks Ben, I will give it a go!
Ben, is the membrane left exposed i.e. is it on the floor to walk on?
It is in my shed for the time being. I will eventually lay some laminate flooring or something similar.
Thanks
Hey, really great guide. Was hoping you could shed some light on exactly what type/size of screw and plug you used for securing the beam to the wall of the house? It only says:
12 x and wall plugs (for fixing the 4×2 to the house wall)
Hi Dave, the materials list in the post covers this. They are 120mm (or 100mm is fine) hex bolts and 50mm x 10mm wall plug. I’ve just updated the post so that links are now available.
Excellent post! I am looking to create a patio with porcelain tiles myself this summer.
I am in Canada and we have cold winters. Currently I just have grass in the back. I plan on ripping the grass, adding gravel, compacting it with a compactor, then putting on cement and the porcelain tiles, any tips or ideas you could provide?
Thanks dal. The best advice is to ensure the sub-base is deep enough and solid before you start. Any movement in the base will play havoc on the porcelain tiles. Best of luck with your build.
We live in a hot climate. Is bamboo flooring less susceptible to heat expansion? We can’t make up our mind and any information is really helpful!
I really don’t know about bamboo in hot climates sorry Mary. Try asking a local supplier who should be able to help. I hope you find the information you are looking for. Ben
Hi Ben and Jon I found your post/thread when trying to research how to put a veranda along the front of my 50s bungalow in a Somerset seaside village! now, even without going any further, I know that I can’t ‘build’ anything on the front or side elevations as they both ‘front a main highway’ (well, quiet cul de sac!) But I still wanted to comment as I think this is a fantastic post and am really interested to see how well someone else did the job following your instructions etc. I’m also commenting because (being a 63 year old single nearly-retiree) I didn’t fancy doing this myself but in my tiny rear courtyard I got a mate to erect something very similar that I bought off the peg for around 600GBP 3 years ago from a Scandinavian company (TUIN DECO) that usually make log cabins – it’s a car port 3m deep by 4m wide and the price included the polycarbonate panels but I haven’t used those (except for my chicken coop!) and still have some left that I’m thinking I might now use for a couple of the panels where it could do with being a bit more waterproof … This was because when I bought the house it had an old grapevine that was still living but had nowhere to climb/thrive! now it is trained up and over the open struts and is coming on nicely. doesn’t keep the area underneath dry but does provide shade!!! I’m going to read your decking post now as my courtyard is all old concrete plus the old base of a shed that was in it when I bought it – demolished that but it makes a nice raised platform just needs some cosmetic TLC!!! fantastic guys, I’ll read your posts again and follow you now I’ve found you! Best wishes, Christina
Thanks for your comments and feedback Christina. Always good to hear people are finding this post useful.
An excellent post on eco-house construction. Thank you 😊
Great job Ben. Can I ask how many packs/lengths of cladding you ordered and what length they were. Have followed the link and seems to be coming out at a lot more than expected for my potentially 2.4mx2.4m (2m tall) shed. I’m approximating I’ll need 17 lengths of 2.4m per side plus a bit for the roof apex at the front. If I say 70 lengths this would be over £800. Am I missing something fundamental here ? Been a long day!
Hi Gary, Pricing has changed quite a bit with the loglap cladding since I built my shed so it’s going to be different. Prices have nearly doubled in the last year or so! Maybe due to Covid, I don’t know but I’m hoping the price will come down again. That’s partly why I started using the shiplap cladding as it’s cheaper.
Hi Ben,
Amazing build and writeup. And so nice of you to still answer questions years after the original article was posted.
I have a question about the stability of the structure.
I see you only anchored front posts to the concrete slabs which is my plan as well, and there are not 45 degree braces anywhere in the structure of the veranda. Which I would like to avoid as well purely for aesthetic reasons.
I assume veranda can’t move back and forth because it’s attached to the house. But what about sideways?
I see it’s leaning to the wall on the left hand side. Do you thing that wall is helping the structure’s rigidity or it would work just as well without it?
I have read a lot about digging holes for the posts and pouring concrete to help the stability of the structure but would like to avoid it if possible. What was the advice you were given regarding stability of your veranda?
Thanks,
Dusan
Hi Dusan, I’ve not had any issues with stability. The structure has been secure and solid since installation due to cut outs on the posts and number of rafters. If you’re worried then digging holes with Postcrete is a good way to add strength and if you feel additional stability is required afterwards then 45 degree braces will surely help.
Good luck with your build.
Thanks for the reply Ben.
Just one more quick question.
I see yo have two swings hanging from your rafters. I’ve read a lot of forums (mostly american) and they are recommending rafter sizes almost double of what you have used if you want to have swing chairs.
I was just wondering how are your swing chairs holding? Do you have any concern about the weight you put on them (let’s say big 260lbs man).
My plan is to have a bit longer rafters than you, 2.7m, but that’s not much of a difference. Also I plan to use rafter hangers (people seem to be saying that they are structurally even better than notching the wood?)
Kind regards,
Dusan
Hi Dule. We don’t have any issues with our swing chairs but please do your own calculations to make sure.
Thank you for this. I built mine last year following your steps and it looks amazing.
Which osmo oil did you use?
Thsnks
Osmo Top Oil – 3028
Hi Ben. Very nice veranda. I have build similar veranda on my house.
Do you know from where (you or someone else) bought timber for partition next to the fence on second veranda ?
It’s not mine sorry Alex so I can’t help answer this question.
Hi Alex i got those timbers from B&Q that are spaced apart, they are fencing timbers
I wanted to reach out and thank you for your post . Your article really resonated with me. I am in the process of re-doing my patio so it has an updated look without breaking the bank. You did a great job highlighting some different options for materials that are more budget friendly than what I originally considered.
It’s nice to know that even if someone is new to DIY projects they can still get a custom looking patio by using tiles like yours! It seems much easier than having to lay down carpet or concrete slabs which take up space and cost money (not mention all the work).
Thanks for reading. Hope your project goes well. Ben
thanks for sharing this precious information with us.
Hi Fred. I personally like to buy Dewalt as I have done for many years. They are reliable and get the job done right. I’d also recommend Makita power tools or if you have the money then go for Festool power tools.
Thanks for reading
Ben
I love wooden items with resin inlays, I’ve wanted something like for ages. Maybe one day!
Some brilliant ideas but there are so many bad stories about rogue Airbnb renters as there also about Airbnb landlords who rent fake properties that the whole area is a minefield that frightens me.
We’ve never had a negative experience using AirBnB so please share links to any bad stories you have come across.
Thanks for your comment.
Great tips, thank you!
Thank you for this
Lots of great tables – I love the Edward one best!
Thanks Ashleigh, I think that’s my favourite too 😁👍🏼
With the weather so far this year it could be good if our lawn was little less lush and healthy.
This is absolutely lovely. And how exciting to have attracted newts! I haven’t seen one in a long time.
Great ideas, thank you. I love those drawers under the stairs!
Love the scaffold shelves!
I would never have thought of this, it’s a really good idea. When you’ve just finished a big project it can be hard to find the energy to do a really thorough clean.
Love the folding desk!
Helpful post!
These are all great and so stylish. The yellow hairpin legged desk is really standing out to me 🙂
Hi ! I read your blog and it is very nice blog. I check many online roofing companies for my roofing work but when I read your blog and I finally decide for which type of roofing service is perfect for my roofing work.
These are lovely!
Looks great I love number 2!
These are great! I love the industrial look.
Very true!
Interesting, thank you. This kind of tech can add a lot of flexibility and security.
Hi Ben,
Great step by step guide, so thanks for taking the time to write and share this.
Am I right in thinking the loglap cladding is screwed through the waterproof membrane and into the end vertical wall batons and therefore creating a potential water path through the membrane?
Don’t get me wrong I think it’s an unlikely water path due to the compression between the cladding and membrane and not one I can think how to avoid right now, but just checking I’ve understood your construction correctly.
Thanks,
Dan
Thanks Dan
Potentially you are correct but I’ve not had any issues with damp etc. within the building. If you were concerned then you can always add an extra batten to raise the cladding off the membrane.
Do remember, this is a budget build shed so it’s up to you how far you want to take the construction. It very much depends on what you intend to use the structure for. Mine was intended originally just for shed storage space and it’s perfectly adequate for this.
Best of luck with your build.
Ben
Sounds great on the flooring!
Great tips and inspiration, thank you!
We are moving to a new home soon with a garage and I cannot wait to try some of these DIY projects.
Wow, I love the sofas! There’s something very relaxing about the wide, open look of spaces designed along mid-century lines.
Awesome tips! I’m always trying to save money
Great tips. We do the bird feeders and wild flowers.
Adjusting the desk in a small space is a very challenging task. But these options given by you can make the work easy. These handmade desks are amazing and also improves the overall look. I personally liked Hampshire rustic desk and the ASHME corner desk. Thank you very much for this article.
Thanks for your comment and thanks for reading.
This is so cool!
There is something very primal about these wood tables, but I would have to check that the wood is UK, and preferably locally sourced. I certainly would not want to encourage wood being bought from the Brazilian rainforest etc.
Thanks. I will definitely buy one
Box cutters are a great idea. And I can always do with a reminder to look for an opening perforation before trying to take a package apart the hard way!
There are some wonderfully designed pieces of quality furniture from the 50s and 60s, but the majority of furniture in the majority of homes reflected the post war austerity and was manufactured to a price rather than with quality. I suppose much of the lower quality furniture broke in the 50s and 60s, but there is still some junk out there.
I would love a pond!
This is a wonderful guide. So clear and encouraging; thank you!
Just got new blinds!
Bogo curved sofa is fantastic i would love to own something like this wow
A pond great but I have it difficult to maintain a pond in a state that encourages wildlife. Pond weeds may take over or algae can turn it into sludge or the water may evaporate. etc.etc.
Thanks for the comment. The plants we used in our pond help control algae so not really had any issues. But like the rest of the garden it needs a little maintenance from time to time.
Very motivating! There are so many learning resources online once you know where to look.
This is so interesting. I had no idea there was so much to it. I suppose people with a lot of practice make it look easy!
Great tips! It’s so helpful to have a dedicated space already set up; it makes it a lot easier to get into the right mindset.
Lots of works of art!
This is so helpful. There’s a huge amount to consider, but making a plan and getting all the information you can in advance makes it a lot less intimidating.
I love this! And these instructions are really easy to follow, thank you.
Such hard work digging this out!
Great advice, thank you. I need to get better at labelling things!
Helpful post!
Brilliant instructions, thank you. I hadn’t considered building one of these; they look great!
I do love a tiled surface. I didn’t know there were so many options available now; I’m intrigued by the metal-look ones.
Great build. Where are you based?! Just wondering if you would like to come and build similar to my house in Bristol! So hard to find someone to build for the costs you are talking about. Had a company quote nearly £30,000 for something similar but with glass! 😱
Thanks for the invite Natasha but it’s not a service I offer sorry. Hope you find someone who can do this for a reasonable price. (not £30k :o) Ben
Good advice, thank you. I hadn’t given much thought to slat size before, but I can see it could make quite a difference to both look and function.
Great tips, thank you. Insurance is incredibly important, it’s a fundamental part of looking after your property and belongings.
Great thanks
Inspiring, thanks! I didn’t know that premade legs were an option, they sound like a good idea for a beginner.
Love it all!
This is so interesting! I definitely had the wrong idea about eclectic style.
I like these uses of glass. Not only does it create a more spacious look, but the texture and shine adds interest.
These are really good ideas. It’s well worth doing the preparation beforehand.
Great article, thank you. A shed is usually very useful for gardening, but can need a surprising amount of thought put into its design and construction.
Love the look of glass but the cleaning less so!
Very interesting, thank you. There’s a lot more to this than I realised, but it’s so worth the work.
We are currently doing our house up to sell. These are some really good tips thanks.
This is very constructive, thank you. Being good at a form of art is one thing, running a business is another, and both take time and dedication to learn.
I have asthma so this is helpfuL!
There’s lots here I didn’t know; thank you! I’d be tempted to get a professional in at least once, to see how much difference was made by their expertise.
I’ve yet to try any smart home tech, and this is a great list, thank you. I think I’d go for a video doorbell first, they sound really good.
Loads of good advice, thanks! A bit of thought at the design stage can save space and stress later.
They sound really good. I love the colour of the blind you chose!
🥺🥺🥺 that was amazing!
The ceramic floor in the bathroom looks very cool, adds volume and generally makes the appearance cooler and more beautiful. very tired of these standard bathroom floors, regular tiles look very old-fashioned, BORED !!
I want to add that ceramic is very practical to use, it is easy to clean, if installed correctly, and there will never be mold.
I am glad that people are starting to care more and more about the design of the bathroom, I hope soon more and more posts on the Internet will be with such wonderful content.
This is so inspiring! I’m sure there’s a way of having a party at home that would suit just about anyone.
It relaxing to read this🥺
Great advice, thank you. I prefer the security of shelves with visible supports, but floating shelves do look very impressive!
I love this information!
Love those 60s chairs!
These are really good tips, thank you. Putting as much available space as possible to work as storage really helps.
Hi Ben, Fantastic post and patio looks awesome! I was intrigued by the part when you talk about the slurry primer and noticing a few rocky tiles towards the end. We’re currently having a porcelain patio laid and have used your blog to ‘gently nudge’ the chaps in the right direction. I think this is relatively new for them. Last night I managed to just lift up a couple of slabs from the front edge despite them using slurry primer and a nice mortar bed. Quite disappointed. So did you have to lift up slabs and replace them again when you found bonding wasn’t sufficient? And now a year on, is everything nice and secure? There’s no rocking on any slabs but I worry about months down the line and whether they will lift or rock, esp the ones in the centre now.
Hi Rick, we actually used some Fix-a-floor to stop the rocking tiles. It seems to have done the job for now.
You simply drill a hole in the grout between the tiles and squirt this stuff in. Obviously no drilling required if you haven’t done the grout yet.
Here is the product: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fix-Floor-Strength-Bonding-Adhesive/dp/B00Q5I40YS/ref=asc_df_B00Q5I40YS/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=256152831496&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8406677417909980285&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006741&hvtargid=pla-450641101404&psc=1
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A great share. I’m looking forward to the continuation. Good luck.
Thanks for the inspiration. I added the decking and lighting too. Furniture on the way. Was a big project (for me anyway) but it looks fantastic. I’m a software developer so stuff like this isn’t remotely what I do. But I really enjoyed it – and wouldn’t have started it if I hadn’t stumbled across this guide. Photos here:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/3pAtUtpdB6mKU3FD6
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Nice work Gabhan! Looks like you have a good level of skills for the work. I worked in IT when I completed mine so in a similar boat. You have a lovely garden. Ben
great sharing.
A great first experience of a wood pallet delivery 🙂
Thank you for this very informative article. The blog is great! You have written a lot of things that will surely benefit many. Hope you will continue sharing your knowledge with us.
Brendon
I have been reading about the benefits of having a veranda for years. I was so excited to find this guide! It gives great tips on how to build your own veranda and what you can do with it once built. The guide is very detailed and has lots of pictures which are easy to understand. I love that it provides details on different types of wood, materials needed and the step by step instructions. Thank you for this wonderful article.
Great tips. Each time i visit your blog i learn new things, thanks for sharing
A well thought out and written article
Nice, detailed post. Loved how you described all the steps patiently.
Thanks, appreciate the feedback.
Thanks for sharing this! All the best!
Thanks, glad you liked it.
Hi there, I’m looking at purchasing one of these cabins – I can’t seem to find the answers on the Billy Oh website so thought I would ask you. Do you know if you can orientate the the doors/windows differently on these office? Like, for example as you are looking at the office, could you have the door to the right instead of the left?
Hi Sarah. Good question but unfortunately I don’t know. Best to reach out to BillyOh or Garden Building Direct.
Thanks for reading. Glad you found it useful.
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Hi Ben – I’m looking to buy the BillyOh Fraya Pent Log Cabin 4×3 for a garden office to use all year round. I’m thinking of putting it on a solid concrete base. I’m based in Scotland so was looking into good insulation options to keep it warm during the colder months. Any advice please?
I was thinking about insulting the floor (underneath the floor supplied) , roof (underneath and then covering with a plaster board and three walls (internally by building a frame) from inside using something like a 44mm kingspan. Any thoughts?
Many thanks,
Max
Hi Max
I guess there are many way to achieve this. This is how I would approach it personally.
For the floor/base, a solid concrete base is always a good option. It provides a sturdy long lasting foundation for your building. It does however make it a little more difficult to insulate. I would still build a ~100m thick wooden frame on top of the concrete base which will house the Kingspan insulation boards you mentioned. (The thicker the better). You can then build the log cabin directly on top of this frame. (discard the bearers provided with the kit as this will allow cold air between the insulation and the cabin.)
As for the walls, I would use Rockwool insulation and plasterboard over the top. The thickness will depend on how much space you’re willing to sacrifice inside. (4x3m isn’t that big. Taking ~80mm off all the interior walls will reduce the interior significantly). I would go with a 25mm Rockwool and a 9.5mm plasterboard, just to keep the thickness to a minimum. If however you are happy to lose the space then again, thicker is better.
There is plenty of space in the roof of these buildings so some more Kingspan boards are a good idea and easier to fit than the Rockwool.
I hope this has helped. Remember, this is just my opinion. Please do your own research. There are some good videos on YouTube if you need more ideas.
I’ve also written a post about how I insulated my old shed conversion. See it here: https://wood-create.com/2021/02/14/how-to-build-a-garden-office-from-scratch-on-a-budget/
Thanks for reading my post and all the best with your build.
Ben
Thanks for the great post on patio tiles! I’m a big fan of outdoor spaces and am currently looking to tile my patio.
Hi Ben Great Site, would it be possible to do Plans for a 6x5meter garden Office build ?
Thanks for the suggestion. I will be providing more plans in the future but they do take me quite a while to produce. A lot of time goes into each plan. Please check back in the future for more. Thanks, Ben
Hi there, what was the total length of the table? You mentioned cutting the boards in half to fit into the van. So we’re the boards just 1.8 m x 6?
Hi, not sure I understand the question. Cutting the boards in half is irrelevant for the purpose of the build. It was just part of the story of how I could fit them in the van.
I’ve never built a shed before and now really need a studio outside . Thanks for so generously sharing your knowledge, challenges, costs, photos and tips! Congratulations on your progress. Pleased to have found you!
What is the typical cost of this build at the present time.
That is a difficult question as pricing changes almost daily. You would need to get some prices from your local hardware store for an accurate cost. Thanks, Ben
Hi
Amazing design coffee tables. thanks for share us.
Love this and want one for our garden. We are also in Cornwall (North) and the only reservation I have is the wind. Do you find any issue – you look fairly sheltered but our location is less so. Thanks very much.
Thanks Louise. I also have reservations about the wind. I’ve not had the chance to see how it fairs in strong winds yet so that test is still to come. The structure feels really strong and the polycarbonate sheets feel fixed in place so I think it will Withstand strong winds. I did buy some additional fixings for the sheets but decided not to use them. I can send you the link to them if you want?
how long are the runners you used? surely 450 isn’t long enough for under stairs? its about 900mm under ours?
Mine were 450mm because this is how far I wanted the drawer to extend out. You can use whatever length runners you feel are suitable for your design.
Hi Ben,
Do you know where I can get affordable 4m solid sheets? Generally the max I can find is about 3m and they are crazy expensive. I’ve tried the link above but roofingsuperstore don’t seem to sell them,
Cheers
Hi Tommy. Affordable isn’t a word I would associate with solid polycarbonate sheets. You can find the 4m x 1m sheets here: https://roofin.co.uk/shop/axgard-uv-protected-clear/
No it is not! Cheers pal, gonna start the frame before I make a final decision on the roofing. Will prob end up with multiwall or clear corrugated tbh. Solid looks so much better but so pricey.
Both yours look amazing btw – i’m pretty much hoping for a a carbon copy of your first one.
Thanks Tommy and good luck with your build!
Hi Ben,
Nice build!
This is pretty much exactly what I have planned to build, but have a couple of questions on yours before I proceed.
1. How did you apply the flashing after the roof was already up?
I was thinking of applying the flashing 1 meter at a time after fitting each sheet, but I can see from the pics that you didn’t do that. I’m guessing you had to climb on top of it which I don’t fancy trying.
2. How is the noise from the rain?
I know the noise on the double layer polycarbonate isn’t great, but I’ve no experience with the solid clear stuff (which is the material I’d rather use).
Thanks.
Hi Ben,
Nice Build! That’s pretty much what I’m planning on building, but have a couple of questions about yours before I start.
1. How did you apply the flashing?
It looks as though you must have climbed on top of the roof to apply it at the end. I’m thinking of applying it one meter at a time by leaning over after I install each roof panel.
2. What’s the rain noise like?
I know that it’s not great on the multiwall stuff compared to glass, but I’ve not used the solid clear stuff before. I’m just a bit concerned as the veranda will be over some patio doors connected to the living room.
Thanks.
Hi Pete, Thanks and good questions.
Q1. To apply the flashing I used a couple of long boards braced over the top of the veranda. I used wet towels to cushion the boards and prevent them from slipping away from underneath me. It was a bit sketchy but managed to complete the job. Your way could also work!
Q2. The solid polycarbonate is very similar to glass and noise is minimal. I’ve honestly not noticed it since I installed the veranda a couple of months ago.
Hope this helps,
Ben
Thanks, that has helped and I was hoping you’d say that about the noise.
Nice work on the blog by the way, it was a good read.
Thanks again 🙂
This looks really tidy, well done!! I’m curious how are you getting on and how did this cope with the heat this week? I’m looking into options for a garden studio and your posts are a real inspiration for going down the DIY route but I’d want to use it comfortably year round.
Hi Alex. Thanks! It been pretty good in the heat. Stayed cool for most the day (with windows closed) but started to heat up a bit in the late afternoons. A fan helped circulate the air for the hottest parts. It reached about 26 degrees at its hottest. I will likely install a mini log burner this autumn in preparation for winter. Shout if you have any more questions and I’ll do my best to answer them. Ben
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The information given in your blog has been explained very deeply and you have very good knowledge about furniture.thanks for share us.
Hi Ben just bought the 10x 12 ft plans .
You mention a plastic barrier for the base .
Does the plastic barrier go ontop of the paving slabs and then the base sits on the plastic ?
Thanks James
Hi James. Sorry this wasn’t clear. The plastic barrier goes over the wooden base and then ticks underneath. It isn’t essential but does add another layer of protection from rot etc.
Regards
Ben